Promoting Diversity, Safer Sex, and Connection at New York’s Most Exquisite Play Party | Alain and Marz from Top Floor Club
Show Notes
Alain and Marz are on a mission to create the most exquisite and transformative experience on the planet with you at the Top Floor Club. With guiding principles such as immersion, authenticity, generosity, character, and equality, they’ve been deemed the most exclusive play party in New York.
In this episode, you’ll learn about:
The difference between a swingers party and play party
How Top Floor Club became the most exclusive play party in New York
All the things you need to know before your first play party
How Top Floor takes the time to educate newcomers of the event about how to properly handle equipment for those interested in experimenting with BDSM or Kink
How to properly give [and withdraw] enthusiastic consent at a play party
Safer sex practices and rules to follow when engaging with one or more partners at a party
How self doubt may be a signal of the fawning response during a situation where it may be hard for someone to withdraw consent out of fear of rejecting someone
How the difference between politeness and kindness can help you understand if your needs are being met
How play parties can encourage diversity on multiple levels to provide an equitable experience for all humans attending
Alain and Marz are part of the team that runs Top Floor club in New York. It’s not just a party for sexual self-expression, it’s a place for connection and transformation. They are an exclusive invite-only private play party to givers of the highest character who will make a strong contribution to the party and community.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode:
"A play party, especially [at] Top Floor, we level that up because it's about connection. It's about freedom, it's about trying out whatever you want. It's about individual journeys through the night.”
“One of the factors I consider a successful [night at Top Floor], one of the measures is when people come to me afterwards and say ‘I had a life changing experience’ and that happens pretty much every party.”
“One of the things that differentiates our party, I think from almost all play parties, is we do not ever have performances. We never separate anyone from audience to performer because that isn't great for the vibe. Everyone's a performer, everyone's participating.”
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Transcript
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
All right listeners. Welcome back to another very exciting episode of Stubborn Love. If you clicked on this episode, I'm guessing that really you are wanting to try to explore things. And I don't really want to give too much of an introduction because I don't think I can do any better than my guests here today.
So please sit back, put your seatbelts on and get ready for a wild ride. I have Ala and Mars here to join me today. Can you both introduce yourself who you are and we'll get started and dive into our show?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Fantastic. Thank you Paige. Thank you for having both of us here today. We're really excited to share all this stuff. My name is Alain and I'm the creator, the producer and the host of a large scale play party called Top Floor that has been around since 2011 and was a secret until just this last year. And now the cat's out of the bag and we're out with it and this is my colleague, Mars.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Hi. Thanks for having us, Paige. I'm Mars. I'm one of the team leads for top floor. I am the community management.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I contribute to strategy and I'm the overall party rock star, party rock star.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I mean, I want that job.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Well, he's busy hosting.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
You are a rock star.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
That's awesome. I got a party for two.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
So in that sense, I, before we dive into really what top floor is, I want to know, like, how did y'all even land in this kind of business? Like what is your story? How did you get here?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Great question. So about 13 years ago or so I had always been kinky. But for the most part, the scene most of my life was not very classic and I didn't find people or parties that I enjoyed very much. And about 13 years ago, I hooked up with some folks that were throwing the best parties in New York, the best public parties in New York. And they came to my office one day because they were looking for work in my field, just training and consulting and creativity. So I basically hired them
and thought, wow, this is cool. I have people that are throwing great parties and within six months or so, I had the opportunity to start throwing the after parties and the very first after party, I, I've always been a social experimenter the very first after party.
I thought, what if we didn't invite any selfish people? What if we only invited the givers and not the takers? And what would that do to the vibe and the results were incredible from then on it, you know, supposed to get ahead.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Oh, how freaking cool. I have a question like, how is it that you're able to find people who consider themselves givers? Like, how do you make sure, like, do you give out a questionnaire? And you're like, are you a giver or are you a receiver? Like, how do you go about that?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
That's a great question. It's more about identifying those who are takers who you can feel are sucking out the energy or taking advantage of others and not letting them come and most people are givers or at least mixers. There's a guy named Adam Grant out of Wharton who has worked on this concept of givers and takers and matchers and how they operate in society and that's what we work with.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
So to expand on it when the party just started in 2011 for up to about several weeks ago because it was entirely secret. The way people ended up at the party is only through referral and the way they even found out about what the party is called was by the time they were about to go to the party.
And so your question of how character was selected is a little bit of a has a bit of a different answer from how the party used to run in complete secret compared to what we're doing. Now, that applications are open while referrals are given top priority.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
We are also open to, I guess the public now for applications and in the application process, we actually interview everybody and you can tell within a few seconds or at least a few minutes.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
you know, a couple of minutes, whether someone is a decent person, we want to make sure that the room is filled only with people who have your best interests in mind, which makes it safe.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Yeah. And I don't know of any other party on this scale that is dedicated to pretty much a half hour zoom interview with everybody who is considered for the guest list and there's definitely certain things, not even so much that we're looking for. There's just things like on said that we're definitely trying to avoid and my personal goal on these interviews, these
betting calls is that the party is, you know, you, you turn the corner, it's gotta be someone you wanna fuck or someone you really want to talk to and you know, it's a good crowd.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I mean, that's a really good way to go about it to know. OK, like who's in, who would not be good for the party? I'm glad you went into like, OK, how much time is really spent on that? That was actually a question that I had myself. Like, how long do you go about? What is the interview process look like? Is there anything else that you're able to share about like what the application is like on their end for people interested in the party?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Certainly. So, for instance, if a couple is coming or people are coming as partners pole, we do speak to them as a, as a group. We are very invested in the dynamics of the people who come together and we keep a close eye on all the referrals if you referred someone, they are now your responsibility.
You're telling us this person is doesn't just belong, but will contribute to the community to the vibe. And we're very strict on the rules that we stand by consistently whether it's consent and intoxication, general behavior. There's a lot of dedication to that.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Oh, I'm so excited to even dive more into those rules too.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
back to the couple's thing. We're looking to make sure also that both whether it's couples or, or three people even we're looking to make sure that all of them really want to come to the party instead of having one of them wanting to push their partner in because that's not a not a good match trying to do.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah. So real big hard limit is no coercion I'm hearing.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Definitely not. Yeah.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
And to build on. Well, I just said actually the, the calls are just as much of us checking you out as finding out on the potential guests and whether this is the right party for them, whether whether this is the right time in their, you know, sexual and relationship journeys to attend this just to learn more from each other.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
I don't think we mentioned yet. The party is about 250 people. So it's a pretty big group that we bring together for, for this. So it's even more important compared to bringing together 30 people or 40 people.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah, it, it sounds like really this interview process is so crucial because people are literally hand picked, like you said, to make sure they're contributing to an overall safe and fun environment for everybody and we didn't get to yet. Mars, how did you land into this kind of place? What's your story?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
My personal journey, I've always been considered myself sexually liberated. I went to a very liberal high school. We were actually covered in New York magazine as they didn't have words like sex, positive or gender fluid back then. So whatever they called us, there was a whole expose. That's the kind of school I went to and I right around college time, I dove deep into the burning man scene.
There's a lot of overlap there and sexual freedom and expression. A lot of creativity. I started producing events there in the meantime, getting involved in the play scene in New York, which has evolved a lot over the past decade and then marriage, but then divorce and here I am and living my best life and, just as I was bringing back, considering bringing back Top floor after a long hiatus, just getting the band back together.
I was always a fan and, you know, a guest back in the older days and was just thrilled to just dive in head first and make this thing even better than the best that it used to be.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I mean, it sounds like what you guys are doing. You're making it happen. I know you've already briefly went into some aspects of top floor. But if you were to just, you know, if I were a past or spy on the street and they wanted to know what is top floor, what would be your speech that you would give them?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
I guess I would say that it's the most coveted invite only exquisite large scale play party where the vibe is everything. So we knew from the beginning that from that experiment that everything has to serve the vibe, every decision, every action and every principle and the vibe creates an environment where people immerse themselves, where people are authentic in their connections with each other.
Where of course, because we only have givers there tremendous amount of generosity. And there's equality too among the participants. We work really hard to create a level playing field inside the, inside the suites where we throw the party and there's oh and I, and I should say, if you walk in, when you walk into the suite, you can't tell that it's a play party.
You'll see two dance floors, you'll see two open bars. You'll see people mingling. It starts very, very high end. It's classy cocktail to start and, servers are coming out with food and it's volunteers only. And, and that's another piece that creates a great vibe. When I say volunteers, there are 80 out of the 240 or so, people are volunteers, but they max they volunteer for maximum of an hour or two hours and a quarter so that they can be participants like everybody else.
And because everyone is there because there's no one there because of a paycheck, it creates an even better vibe. So every decision really does support this. Focus on fantastic vibe. Marris. I'm sure you have something you want it.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Wow. We love talking about top floor because I think that was an extended elevator pitch like that walking on the street. Sure took her out.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
It was a, it was an elevator that went up to the 100th floor. Ok. Yeah.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
To the top floor, the top floor.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Right. Right, right. The top floor elevators.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I guess I'm just gonna go back to that point. I said about making sure that the party is just full of people who are just the greatest characters, high quality, interesting and gaging and fully committed. Not only to their own.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
But the collective experience, if I can add a couple more things, more than half the people at the party don't have sex.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
It's as much a sexy party as it is a sex party. and it's a play party. It's not a swingers party.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah. Can you go into that? Because I'm wondering what the difference is.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Sure. So, the idea behind a swinger party generally is that people in a committed relationship, go together to a party to have sexual experiences with others often together. So in the presence of their partner in a way that's not considered infidelity, that's sort of what that is and a play party, especially top floor, we level that up because it's about connection.
It's about freedom, it's about trying out whatever you want. It's about individual journeys through the night. Do you? I'm sure you want to add some more as well to it. That is.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah, Mars, what do you have to say for what the difference is between a swingers party and a play party that top floor provides.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Well, there's the very evident difference of who's attending. As said swinger parties are couples and perhaps some single women, we have couples, single women, single men, people who come as friends. And that does go back to one of our pillars equality because so many of these parties will charge different tiers for couples versus single women versus single men.
I don't know how your audience are familiar or feel about that. But I often find myself on like a little personal soapbox of economic equality. So often I find that that kind of pricing structure creates economic objectification at the party and is discouraging our quality men from being the quality single men that we know they can be at these parties rather than somebody who paid three times the price and have this entitlement all of a sudden, like they bought you five drinks as
if that's supposed to mean something. So that said I find swinger parties to be much more predetermined in their dynamics. And the expectation is for sex versus like we said, so many people don't even have sex at top floor, find other ways to explore, explore as individuals with their own self expression, judgment free. Just finding different ways to play fetish and B Ds M dancing and engaging in the super interesting conversations.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
It's all about connecting in so many different ways than just a very, I don't know, often, I think transactional dynamic, it, it sounds like the key difference is at a swingers party.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club,
There's like this intention or sometimes even expectation that there will be some sort of sexual transaction, sexual act transpiring and for you guys what you host and provide there, there is no expectation. Like if the vibe is feeling it and the people are feeling it. Sure. Great. Go ahead do that. But that's not the reason that people are exactly there. It can be one of the, like options if you were to think of it. Like a buffet, one of the options that they choose from. Yeah.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
One participant recently said to me, I come for the music and I stay for the play. Yeah.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
What kind of music do you guys play?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Honestly? It's a good vibe of dance music. There's two dance floors. So when the night starts, it's very much like lower tempo good for mingling and closer to midnight. When the elevators close and some clothes starts coming off, people get more comfortable that the party starts. We open up a second dance floor.
We have DJ S who are also all volunteers. We even have live instruments sometimes jamming out with the DJ S which is just phenomenal and towards sunrise because we go till like 8:09 a.m. in addition to the lovely breakfast sandwiches. There's these sunrise sets, it's really time for some aftercare.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Although there will be people so hardcore going to late AM 22 parties ago.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
We had this amazing saxophonist, world-class saxophonist who tours with major musicians jamming with the DJ and oh, so beautiful. One of the highlights of my life musically in the room next door later on, a woman shared that she was climaxing and as she was climaxing, the sounds of the saxophone were moving through her body and all the way through her to the climax. I was like, that's pretty cool.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Oh my gosh, what a like even spiritual experience that can be had there. And I'm actually learning through in my therapy practice where I have clients being able to use something called Ketamine assisted therapy. And music is a really, really big part of that journey. And what I'm realizing is how moving that can be with your emotional state.
And so it's really lovely to hear that. Something so positive coinciding at the same time at your play party is able to provide like such a lovely experience of pleasure like that for someone. It's amazing.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
We're allowed to, to engage all the senses.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
I'll add something else, which is for me, what I consider a successful night. One of the factors I consider successful, one of the measures is when people come to me afterwards and say I had a life changing experience and that happens pretty much every party.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
And that's beautiful to be my favorite thing on the side of those sunrise sets is being just like I'm ready for it, you know, just like cuddle up in a blanket. And you know, in one of the rooms was the sunrise, there's these gorgeous top floor, unobstructed views of Manhattan and somebody will just like catch me and sit me down for a gratitude speech.
You know, have you, have you ever had one of those genuine. Wow. I'm so grateful for the experience I had for the fact that you helped me discover this community. Thank you for facilitating. It's, I mean, that's a good night.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
How fulfilling this must be for you both.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah, it is. And as you know, shame is an important aspect of sexuality. And at top floor people overcome and heal shame because they get to express their fantasies or their desires and they realize it's ok. And so that's a lot of the breakthrough as well. It comes from that. Yeah, it's very, it's very gratifying. Yeah.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Oh gosh. So you hear that listeners, you can have life changing experiences and, and have such a beautiful time finding your way to be authentic in your self expression. I want to talk a little bit more about the, the vibe of the event. Like, is there anything else that that people are noticing?
Like, let's say, a new person, you just had a, a review of an application and interview with someone? So they're a new person coming to your event. How do you prepare them for such an experience? Let's say if they're brand new to the world of expressing themselves sexually?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Yes. Thank you for clarifying that because it would have been a slightly different answer between someone who's had experiences in the play party scene and it's their first top floor versus somebody entirely new that said we definitely go out of our way to make sure that during these interviews, we let people know that there are no expectations but that they will be experiencing something that is different from what they've been exposed to.
Previously. The, the party is, always on a Saturday and the Friday. Before that, we do a mixer, a smaller event without play. That is only for people who will be attending on Saturday and a lot of the first comers choose to attend this to so that when they walk in on Saturday, there's more familiar faces in the room to be more immersed in this environment that there that's going to be just turned up like 2 11 the next night.
So we'll do sexy workshops and just some music and mingle. And that's really been setting a great scene. Also during the vetting calls, we talk so much about the party and then you know, everybody else who's at the party have this fall and everybody's coming in with like a certain standard in mind.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I have a question. You mentioned something about sexy workshops. Like what's the content of those sexy workshops?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Well, you want to talk about this? We did,
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I don't remember what we called it, but I was, I was eating some pussy and narrating it. What did we call it?
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
We were doing the art of love it.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
How do you narrate while you eat pussy though?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Oh, I will tell you. Hold on what we call it?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
The art of going down on a woman.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
It was very artful. I take oral pleasure very seriously, regardless of receiving genitals, me and a lovely woman who's also part of the leadership team. We, we play together but she self defines as very straight and it is always an honor as a woman to be interacting with her. So we were talking through it. I talked about how I like to approach the communication that leads up to oral, all such things.
And then, you know, you're getting to it. And I'll be honest, while we talked about what we should cover, we didn't practice narrating while doing it and did find it to be quite challenging to both concentrate and keep performing. And then the most I thought amazing improvised thing happened. One of the members of the team is a doctor, you know, a neurologist and he started just naturally commenting on the experience of what me and my friend are going through psychologically,
neurologically. Just what our like mirror neurons are up to how the orgasm is building up and how we're feeding into each other's energy, which really is the, the entire conversion of oral right there.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
And it was just so scientific and dry, like a podcast over us over her moaning it We got excellent feedback and that's the kind of workshop that y'all need to be advertising that sounds amazing.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So, a different kind of thing we do every time we do more than one workshop is I mentioned briefly before or maybe I didn't that the party is has AAA significant kink element to it. So maybe half the people there are into B DS M or kink or fetish. And we have some equipment and we demonstrate it on the Friday night and show people how to use it, how to keep it
clean and safe. So that the next night they are much more comfortable using it. That's a, that's a, a less that's a more practical for the work for the event kind of workshop.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah, I'm so glad you mentioned that too because I was actually curious what kind of objects or equipment would be there for people to again explore themselves in that way. So that's really amazing that, that you even provide that for people and, and show them, OK, this is how to use it and this is how to take care of it and clean it to make sure that the next person can go in with a beautiful clean assistance.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
in terms of, in terms of other equipment. We have last time we had two SCS which are, I don't know how to describe a s you know, it's vibrator on steroids.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
It's a, it's a device you straddle it, it sits on the ground so you straddle it and it is sort of like a vibrator on steroids. And it comes with many, many, many attachments, whether they're Boral simulation or for penetration. And we did a workshop on that and we had two beautiful women demonstrating and using one another's remotes because they were remote controlled.
A lot of these items are as, as it happens, a lot of play equipment is targeted towards women, but there are so many ways to play together with a partner. There's the switching up the remotes, there's a lot of bondage equipment that's fun for holding and Shibari rig. many very talented Shibari artists attend.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
I forgot about the Yeah.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Can you explain for listeners who maybe aren't familiar with that what that is? And yeah, just type in there.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
I'm by no means an expert at what Shabari is. But I will say it's a Japanese form of using rope generally to suspend people in a way that they can have it, it has many different ways it can go, but it can be beautifully healing for people to be suspended in that way. And takes, it's a process. It's it may take half an hour, 45 minutes to suspend someone.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Yeah, it's intricate, not work with a lot of kind of like safety precautions because it is rope. There's a lot to learn there. And also it could be a very, it is a very beautiful art. People just create fashion pieces out of it. a lot. And I went to a rope share kind of like workshop because we're determined to learn some tricks by the next party. We're not the rope, the equipment and we should damn know how to at least do something.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I love that. And so it sounds like you're able to even have some experts there to show you how to use these things. Correct?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah, a lot. And I would say not so much that they show us how to use it because they have very intimate sessions with other people that others might see or not see.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah, like demonstration.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Well, so, so we, we talked, I went to a workshop last night and at least this time when they're at a play party with someone that's their focus. It's not to demonstrate to anybody else. It's to create a beautiful experience there. It just happens to be with a bunch of other people around which adds even more to the energy.
So to that, one of the things that differentiates our party, I think from almost all play parties is we do not ever have performances. We never separate anyone from audience to performer because that, that isn't great for the vibe. Everyone's a performer, everyone's participating.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So, so so again, we don't, the Shaara rig is we have it there for people to use but not to demonstrate anything or to perform anything for the rest of it sounds like and I'm just gonna take a guess.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Here you tell me if I'm off, if you were to have a performer and create like this. OK. Perform performer, audience type of dynamic that would crush the vibe of it being as equal as you can make it where everybody is at the same level as each other. Yeah.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
And it's also about flow, which means if you're in a conversation with someone and suddenly there's a performance and you're all, you know, do you talk and that interrupts the flow. We wanna, we wanna continue building the flow throughout the night. So it's so it's extraordinary.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
He wouldn't even let me stop for his birthday. I was like, we're gonna do a cake like don't you dare?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
No way. No way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing about cakes is what people don't realize they want to celebrate someone.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
But if half of the room doesn't know who this person is, they're not going to feel connected to the experience, which again doesn't help to, to be the problem with birth is not the problem with cake. If you want cake at the party, you can Yeah.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
OK. The problem with birthdays. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Can you go a little bit into you mentioned earlier about rules and especially for newcomers like what, what rules are there? Are there rules? What, what is it like for someone coming in? Like how do they also prepare for what's going on.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Sure. There are lots of words and then we've added them over time as we've learned, it starts before someone is even interviewed. They have to have agreed that they've read the rules that we've posted on the website, which is not all those. And then by the time they get to their first party, they will have had to demonstrate and we test them that they've actually read and understood the rules and they all are into it because the rules really protect them.
And, you know, an example is we, you know, we talk about consent and getting an enthusiastic yes from others before doing anything and continuing to get an enthusiastic Yes. And I think that we take it beyond the verbal because most communication is nonverbal. We ask people to be responsible for looking at all those cues and making sure that it's that it's really a yes.
And there's a concept called fawning. So there's, there's a fight and flight and there's fawning and freezing and we don't have fear and flight happening in our parties because there's not like a real that kind of threat. But if someone's in a situation and suddenly they're not as enthusiastic, they will often not want to reject someone or feel uncomfortable and not know how to get out of it and fun, which is not a great thing either.
So we make people as responsible for making sure they receive consent and the other person is consenting as they're also responsible for making sure their consent is 100% authentic all the way through the process. And that's one aspect of the safety. There are quite a lot of rules in there. I don't know that all the others do you want?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
More rules. Yeah, respecting other people who are involved in a scene, which actually reminds me one of the ways that we test people that they read the rules and it is about more nuance than just verbal. Yeses is o I has written these wonderful example, narratives that are about situations. They are more like an dotal. Let us show you what we mean, these little subtle things you want. There's one.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So one example is this friend of mine was at, at the play party and he had just finished some kind of play. He was sitting on the couch and in front of him were three humans two with penises and, and a woman or someone with a vagina and they were starting to make out. And at one point, the woman turned to him and saw him there and gave him a really big smile in the real world that might be interpreted as an invitation to join.
Definitely was not invitation to join because she might just have enjoyed being watched. And the other two people who weren't checked in, it wasn't even appropriate for him to go up to them and see if he could enter the scene because that would disturb the flow. Now, if she had said come and join us, he might have approached them, but he still had to check in with the other two. And so they were very upset about what happened because he, he approached them. And it's an example of how the
consent that happens at our party. The violations are not someone trying to get you. Their misunderstandings are not great. These are complex situations that you want to be able to master to really respect people's space in their playing. It's not, by the way, a fallacy about play parties that there are or it's a free for all. Not at all. Everyone that's playing with each other has consented to. And yeah, so that's really crucial as well.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I think another big part of it is about giving consent is a very standard party rule about intoxication. Not only do we not want you to unfortunately become an asshole. We also want you sober enough that you are responsible for your own consent. It will make us all very unhappy and very uncomfortable if people are intoxicated for over intoxicated for any level.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Of course, there is fabulous open bar and just to show you one level of detail, that's how far these rules go.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
There's a section on safer sex and among the rules are, do not brush your teeth in between play partners in between play because that releases blood and that's dangerous to transmit blood. So, so there's there's that you can use mouthwash. We provide mouthwash but it's very subtle.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Yeah, the mouthwash thing. A lot of, or like flossing a lot of people I think don't pick up on that. And Alan said earlier about that anecdote with the guy on the couch. Yeah, maybe in the regular world. A girl smiles at you from across the bar. It's a sign to come over. There's several of these nuances where this, this is something that, that a friend brought up. So there's a lot of burners like burning man participants at who are also at play parties and the way the hippie culture goes
is you meet someone and you give a hug and that's great. It's warm, it's welcoming. But even if you're both burners and you totally get it at a play party, that's a little much, we're all vulnerable. Probably we're already naked. It, it's an extra step of consent for a hug and without that pressure of like having to say yes, like of course, I'll give you a hug back like no, that's, that's not what it's about.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
So, in this scenario, in order to gain consent, so if we're thinking about the two people who were already, you know, having that experience and the other person came up to them and, and joined them thinking it was an invitation. What would be a way for that person to actually know based on your rules that it is an invitation?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I I literally had that happen at the last party. I was I was with a partner and there were these two other couples like, well, we were like, there was one, there was like this empty bed, but like these two other couples got into the bed. I know one of the women and one of the couples was literally like waving us over with a hand. But I noticed the other ones weren't paying attention. So I approached and I couldn't tell whether they just waving at me or the guy I was with together.
So I approached and I was like, ok, so is it cool if it's both of us? And then I made sure I literally was like, ok, wait, wait, wait and ask your friends too. I want to hear a yes from everyone here. Everybody was so grateful and impressed. I'm like, wow, these are to me basic, you know, standards of etiquette. But I'm so glad everyone's impressed and let's get to it like, yeah, it was, it was a good time.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Well, of course, that increases the odds of it happening right and happening really well, because they're like, oh, this is someone who respects boundaries. You know, she's, she's taking care of us. They're going to be a good person to enter the scene with us or might be a person.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
There, there was one thing that's sticking out to me and, I wanna make sure that we address this. For listeners, you were discussing something about the fawn response. And I would like to enlighten listeners, maybe what that experience looks like or is like for someone so that they can recognize in their own selves when fawning might be happening.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So I I'll give an example that we use also to help us all learn, which is there was a woman who came to our party. She had always fantasized about having a connection with a woman. She had never had that yet. And she met this woman that had a beautiful conversation. She was getting really excited and she thought finally her lifelong dream correctly true.
And they started making out and at one point, the other woman said, do you mind if her hus my husband joins us? And within a few moments once he, now, now at that point, she was like, well, the, the wo the woman who had the fantasy, let's call her Judy. Judy was there thinking, well, I'm hot, I'm excited. This might happen. Maybe that will be ok.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
But of course, the fawning is beginning to happen that questioning that self doubt, that's kind of a signal.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah. The self doubt is a signal. Yeah. Yeah. So, so great. That's a great question. Your question is what is the signal? Well, just to, to further the story and then we can explore that more. The husband arrived and then the other woman, let's call her Jane withdrew from the seat and it was clear that she had set, found someone to sleep with her husband.
And at that point, my friend luckily was like, ok, no, I'm not doing this and I broke away from that. It's very hard. I mean, rejecting people. I was in a pizzeria the other day and they said we have a sample and then you'll see if you want to eat. And by the time I was there, I gotta, I gotta order something even though I didn't want to. And it was like, oh and I did anyway. And I'm like, oh, it's so hard when you don't want to.
It's hard to reject people, especially if you're a, you know, a generous person, if you're compassionate and empathetic. So you really have to be strong here and say no, this is not what I want. And there are, there are plenty of other things out there that other, other people can, you can join in on talk about how you know about funding.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I think in life, whether it's a sexual situation or not, there's politeness and then there's kindness. And I think an important question for yourself is, is my behavior right now focused on being polite to someone else. Am I also being kind to myself and my needs that, that's, that's very important. So for, for instance, I, I am so into my feet.
I love them touch. It's just like orgasmic, if not all the way to climax. And there was this guy, I was like, right on. I'm in for this foot massage. He's doing this amazing job. I'm like, you know, holding onto the pillow, it's great. And then he asked, he didn't just go for it if he can suck on my toes. And I'm really not into that.
Like, there is a big difference for me between touching and tongue. And I was like, oh, well, you know, he was already here for like, I don't know, 10 minutes and like doing such a great job and like he's into it and that's exactly where that question of, am I being polite or if I'm being kind to myself comes in?
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Thank you both so much for giving such clear examples for people to understand. I, I think that paints a really great picture of OK, how, how to trust themselves and whether it's more polite and trying to spare the other person, the feelings and, you know, making sure they're not feeling rejected or being kind to yourself and your needs. That was beautiful.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Actually I've on the topic of rejection and we have talked about it for the Friday mixer. I mean, yes, there's the sexy workshops, but I think we're also going to start covering more discussion, sort of philosophical topics. And one that I'm definitely interested in is educating people on not only how to give rejection with grace, but also accept it as such and what it
says about that interaction and how you walk away from it. Because again, that one interaction you had will contribute to the vibe of the party, how you walked away from it.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I'm loving this. It sounds like you really give a well rounded experience of not only like sexual self expression and just play and connection in an emotional sense, but also education and how to communicate with people in a much better way. Then maybe they've learned.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So we hope, I hope so.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Yeah. Yeah, that is that is those gratitude speeches at the end, these completely like transformative experiences of like you're exploring your freedoms and then you're discovering boundaries as you do that. And that is so empowering.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
When we started the party in 2011, there was not much of a culture of consent or understanding of consent. And I was always frustrated because we were a secret party, but I knew we were having a, an influence in a, in a way throughout the community and throughout their friends, et cetera. But now it's changed a lot. I mean, there's a much more evolved understanding of consent and there's, it's a, it's a moving target.
There's so many subtlety and in the media, you tend to oversimplify it. It's very hard, for example, someone might enjoy playing with consensual non consent, you know, so they enjoy saying no when they mean yes. And so it's, it's, you know, you really, communication is really clear. Communication before playing is really clear as well. It's important.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
We're committed to this as much during, as outside of the party. And what I mean is during the party, everybody in leadership is, you know, what we would call like a guardian people. We have these like bracelets, people know to find us if there are any kind of concerns. But also we're kind of like intentionally observant, you know, keeping our eyes out, you know, again, mostly for intoxication, I guess, we're very safety focused and after the party, there's always follow up if
people felt if something made someone uncomfortable and then they didn't feel like addressing it during the party, but then gave it some more thought and wanted to talk to us about it. We are completely open to conversation and this is a very sensitive topic in the play party production community. Like, well, how do you address these things? What, what are the consequences and often enough and with the agreement, consent of the party who brought up the discomfort to begin with?
Often enough, it's just a learning moment. We are lucky in the sense that we don't find ourselves, you know, aggressively banning people, a lot of times it is exactly that just some gray area that we can all be better with.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah. And back to the story of the guy who interrupted the others playing from the smile based on the smile. They were very upset because they thought someone just walked in on their scene and started playing without any consent at all. And once we understood what happened, they understood what happened. It was, it was a healing moment for everybody and oh, we can have compassion for people because they're not out to get us in our, in our space.
No one's out to get us. There certainly are some people out there, which is, and we think of those people as the takers, which is why we focus on not having them inside the inside our room.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
So beautiful. And I, I love that there can be such a healing aspect to that. You know, I think that really separates you from any other kind of like experience. You know, when I'm thinking of like Swingers Resorts, at least here locally in like the Orlando Florida area, there's like a complaint about, oh, well, I had this experience happen and it wasn't, you know, very inviting.
Can you talk to them? Usually management will be like, well, that your problem, right. So they're, they're really not wanting to get involved in, in a sense, causing a really almost a worse experience for the people there because they're not getting any kind of healing like you guys are providing like sitting down, being able to have that conversation talking about what you know, the intentions were talking about how to
move on from it and go about it in a better way next time. So I really appreciate the love and care that you put into this from, from yourself and the other people on staff too.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Well, thank you. And you just mentioned Love Karen, I guess if folks visit and look at our website, our logo is an infinite part which stands for infinite love. And people have come to me and said the party is really a love part sex or play party. And of course, I don't advertise it. We don't advertise it love party because people, there's so many different definitions of what love is.
But love drives everything, everything, the character of people, the generosity, equality vibe is what we focus on to deliver great party. But love is what we use to transform people.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Beautiful. There's one question I had, you know, we were talking about over intoxication for a second and I'm wondering how do we go about looking for the signs that someone is over intoxicated and then once we identify that person or, or group, what happens?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
So, I mean, we've all I think seen signs of they're not walking too straight, their eyes might be a little too glossy, very confused which direction they're walking in. Yeah, not communicating clearly. maybe taking a little nap. Now there's the open bar and while we entirely do not endorse or permit any other, any kind of substance use, you know, we have a full time nurse on staff literally next door just in damn case and all the pocket for all the guardians.
We are on top of it. Heaven forbid there's any kind of emergency, but usually it's about just finding their clothes, making sure they get safely home or maybe quietly. We do have like a room where they can sleep it off.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
We're not about to put anybody intoxicated into a cab, let alone into their own car.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
And then after the party, they're gonna have to deal with the consequences because that is one of the rules they agree to and sometimes it's a pause in attendance and unfortunately, sometimes it's ban.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Thanks for going into that. And again, what sets you apart from everybody else? It sounds like you just have a one of a kind experience where you're making sure that people are safe. So thank you again for providing all of that.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah, I I should clarify the term we always use is safer. You can't guarantee something safe, but you do everything you can to make it as safe as possible.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Thanks for clarifying. I like that. So again, kind of thinking about this preparation stage for someone getting prepared for this type of party. what other things do you suggest that people do to get ready for this event?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
so if it, if it's a couple, they should certainly talk about and if it's their first time, they should talk about how they're planning to navigate the evening and what might happen if they get separated or one of them wants to, I mean, they basically want me to negotiate and also talk about what would make a successful night minimum and what might be a great night for them and, and see how, whether they're aligned in vision or they have different ideas, but they want to support each
other in those ideas. an important piece of jealousy are they, and this is an important criteria for betting people. We sense any kind of, if someone's, if someone hasn't thought about it or, or is it all gives off vibes of jealousy, then they're not ready to cut the top floor. Maybe they can come to go to another play party demonstrate that they've done it and get comfortable.
You don't, you don't just suddenly go, oh, I'm not a jealous person. Another great, another, one of my favorite stories at top four is a guy brought, came with his girlfriend and he had never yet had one of his lovers have sex with another man without him participating. And he met another friend of mine and, and loved him and he knew he was a good person.
Character and it, and finally had that, that experience and he's, and they're best friends now. They've been wrestling for years, lifelong friends. So it created a deep bonding and in terms of the, and helped him be less jealous, of course, as a person because now he can, he knows how to do it safely, seen it. And, and there's a very important concept in the play world and ethical, non Mooy world as well, which is comp pers conversion is this idea of being truly happy for someone
else's happiness and jealousy is not about conversion. But if you can get to that place and it's hard, it's really hard. So when we want something and someone else has it and gets it easily, sometimes we've been working for it hard to be happy with that. But it's a, it's a, it's a muscle that you gotta train and after a while you realize there's plenty to go around. Yeah, I think, yeah.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
The, the party is a fetish party for me because I fetishize Persian love that fetish II I do. It is like I could be in a play scene just facilitating the whole situation and be just the happiest, happiest little camper. Another thing I would say for couples very important is to agree on your exit strategy. Do you leave together? Do you leave alone? Is there a possibility that you might bring someone home if what part of the night, you know, hopefully not, but you feel conflict arising
and the correct thing to do is to take it back home. So an exit strategy for couples is very important. Another thing you want to do to prepare for the parties, couple are single is have a fabulous outfit ready?
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Ok. What do people wear? I guess arriving.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I was working on a mood board last night.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
I'm so excited for it. So the night starts off with what we would call, I guess creative black tie and cocktail. It could be floor length gowns, it could be, you know, loud jewelry, but it's not costume. It's, it could be tuxes with tails or James Bond white. And then as the night progresses, particularly women will bring a change of clothes because let's not pretend like we can put all our sexy lacy strappy lingerie under some skimpy dress, you gotta go go change and some of us hand up
over here will bring like 34 costume changes because the night just goes on and we are all contributing to the vibe and part of that contributing is just feeling so good about yourself.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
You are part of the party decor like I love that this might hearing this, your listeners might think, oh, this sounds like a really expensive party and we didn't talk about, we didn't talk much yet about diversity. But one of the ways that we create a more diverse environment is by focusing on economic diversity. So we have, as I mentioned earlier, a third of the people in the room volunteer and pay almost nothing to be there, which itself opens up a lot of other kinds of diversities.
And we have a tiered system where some people pay a great deal to be there, knowing that they won't get treated any differently in the suite. They know that they want that diversity to create the five and they're willing to pay more for that.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
No special treatment, no special treatment.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
No VIP VIP section. That's, that's the other thing the VIP section gets in the way of life. Exactly.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
The people who do pay the, the larger amount, they do not want the special treatment. You want to be part of the party without anyone feeling that they need to be grateful or something. We're all there and grateful for each other's presence.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Well, I think it goes back to what you both led with is you make sure anyone there is a giver. And so even if they notice that they may have a great deal more financially to be able to contribute, that's their vibe and they want to do that and it's not this tit for tat kind of thing. So I, I think it just, you know, that giving personality reverberates throughout everything that you do and create. So you talked about creating economic diversity and I loved how Mars you, you touched on
making sure that there can kind of be this way of like whether you're a single person, a single male, a single female versus being a couple or a pod. There can be like different financial, like almost like it's more expensive to be a single male to come to these parties. And I'm wondering too, so outside of like the economic diversity, what other things do you both do to make sure that we create this environment of diversity at these parties?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Few things, one of them, one of them is we reach out to members of more diverse communities by communities to refer people and send people away. So that's super important.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
There's diversity in the traditional sense of what, what you know, any good organization, any party is looking for ethnic gender, you know, sexual identity. We are mostly I I'll be very upfront like more of a hetero nom party in the sense. So there's more female male kind of like play going on. But we got dick on dick action. We have, you know, trans guest who feel super comfortable being in their own skin, in the environment that they're in.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah, they definitely do love that.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Yeah.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
So you really do try to create a space where anyone feels welcome and social diversity as well.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Like I, I know I said it plenty like, oh Berners go to this party. Well, we can't have an entire room of people who come with the exact same like social circle background or they all happen to also go to this other play party or they party together over there, like definitely doing everything to keep away from being clicky.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
That's the word I was about to use. So we've gone over rules, we've gone over how to prepare, gone over. What happens? Is there anything else that listeners should know? Like what makes a successful night going to a top floor party?
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
A lot of rest ahead of time. It is a marathon, not a sprint. I'm going to be very upfront with from what I am told and from what I see and understand as a man, you should really understand your erection needs, whether you're gonna be like holding off on coming for most of the night or whether you're the type who's gonna go a couple of rounds because you know, you don't want to miss the party and whether that requires some kind of medical aid, like everybody wants to have a super good time.
Definitely knowing your, I know I keep stressing it such as your intoxication limits. Ladies knowing your foot limits if you came in high heels there. It is a penthouse with stair with, with stairs. Maybe you consider flip flops for later in the night. I don't want you barefoot either. Love that. Maybe bring earplugs if you're the type who needs them for loud dance floors as well. Little things.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I, is there a space where there's an outside space away from the DJ or like, are there quieter areas in this?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
We're very lucky. There are three suites that are interconnected and every single suite has front to back outdoor balconies that are 100 ft long. I don't know each. So there's plenty of outside space. So smokers are welcome to smoke outside there.
So it doesn't put pressure on them. Clearly. There's no smoking allowed in the suit. He's not even vaping. And then there's an area downstairs that once the parties tends to move more upstairs, that is more of the lounging and cuddle space.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
It's also the B Ds M play space too and certainly people can go there and, and the music is more down tempo as well when you were talking about balconies.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
It made me think of something. I don't think we, we hit that is super important to us. So cool balconies. There's no other buildings of that height nearby. Nobody, nobody really sees you. We totally cool. Go out on the balcony and smoke. You don't have to get back in the elevator to go downstairs. You don't leave a party. And to that point, it's your absolute privacy.
There's a dedicated elevator, there's absolutely no phones, no photography, your phone is in code check. You wanna get someone's info, you know, excuse yourself, you can use it there. We're very protective of our guests. Personal information. Yeah, I just wanted to stress that there's definitely concern out there. and maybe more particularly for people of certain professions that are coming to these kinds of events might be, something they want to definitely keep on the
down low and we give that the most attention. in fact, we are introducing a service where if this is a great concern to you and you don't even let they want to fill out the application with your info. There is a way of getting in touch with us and seeing what we can do to accommodate.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach, Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Very cool in all the years we've been throwing this party, we haven't had anyone out of.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
So we have a, a perfect track record, fingers crossed.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
I love that. I'm, I'm glad you mentioned that because I, I don't think we did talk about privacy and confidentiality on this show. Yeah, for that. So thank you for just like giving that as a really big disclaimer because I know some people do have concern, you know, will this get out? What if I see someone in my community? What if I see someone who doesn't like to shut their mouth, things like that. So thank you for making sure pointing that out.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
That's one of the rules, absolute privacy and discretion.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Ok. Awesome. Any other things to make sure we have a successful night? Is that pretty much cover it as much as we can.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Yeah, I think, let go of expectations and come in willing to explore. There's no point to me there's no point in going to an event, magical event, knowing what's gonna happen. You know, you wanna be surprised, you wanna come out going. Wow, that was amazing because I mean, and yeah, that again might come back to some of the differences between a swinger party and top floor play parties, a swinger party. You might pretty much know what's gonna happen.
You know, you have a, you might even know the couple that's gonna go there that you want to play with because that's where you do it here. Come in with the mindset of, I'm ready to follow connections wherever they go. I know that every connection is authentic. So no one's coming up to me because they're paid to or I'm there. If someone's with me, it's because they want to be and see where that goes.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
So beautiful. All right, if people are listening to this and they're like, oh my gosh, I have to learn more about top floor club or like wanting to learn how to apply, how do people reach out or find you and start that process?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Really simple. It's top floor club dot com. Top floor club dot com.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Ok. And what did they do once they arrive there?
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Well, they'll, they'll read about party a little bit, our guiding principles, some of the rules and there. They can also apply for an invitation to a party. They're not applying for membership because you don't get membership offered until much later and you've proven yourself that they can, they can apply for an invitation. And and we go from there, we don't even get back to everybody because there's so many applications at this point coming in, but go for it.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Ok. Very cool. So top floor club dot com and go ahead apply if you have any questions. I'm guessing there's a contact info or, or something like that. Anything else that listeners should know about where to find you.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
The best direct way to get in touch with us is through Instagram. We have an account. It's the top floor, it's not just top floor club, it's the top floor club rather unlike the website and our Instagram is not active. We, we don't follow anyone that's not what it's there for. It's really just to point people to the website and to have some presence and you can DM us there.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
Beautiful. I'll make sure we also have that and show note links for people to reach out and you know, if they have some kind of quick question, they'll make sure to DM you there on Instagram. Well, thank you. We're, we're coming to the end here. I have appreciated talking to you so much.
I, I've learned even so much more and I'm just filled with. So much joy on how much again, care and love that you put into this. This is an experience unlike any other that I've heard of. So, thank you both for existing and making this such a lovely place for people to connect.
Alain, Creator of Top Floor Club
Thank you for your beautiful questions and curiosity in your heart and everything. So it's been a pleasure.
Marz, Community Management for Top Floor Club
Thank you. It's been definitely enlightening to hear one another talk about these questions that we, you know, answer on the daily, but you really got us to focus on it. Thank you.
Paige Bond, Open Relationship Coach
All right. Well, you're welcome. And I hope I did well and made you proud. Oh, you did good. All right listeners. I'll make sure to have all the show notes, links in the description so you can reach out, follow and check out more of top floor club. Thanks for listening. And until next time.
